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Reinstate 30 mph Speed Limit on Church Road, Sutton and extend it to Ingham Road and Goose Lane

Requesting for the 30 mph [speed limit] be reinstated on Church Road, Sutton as it was when the old primary school was open until 1970's and 80's extend it to Ingham Road and Goose Lane.

Ingham Road and Church Road are being used as a rat run to A149 to avoid Stalham, mini-roundabout, school, bump, Tesco, etc. 

"I am a North Norfolk District councillor for Waterside ward and the chair of Sutton parish council. 
As a resident of Ingham road Sutton I would like to endorse Mr Ian Bakers petition for a reduction in speed limits through Church road through to and including Ingham road. We live on single track roads with hardly any passing places (none of which are designated passing places) or pavements to get to safety when vehicles speed past us. 
I am aware that on High Hill Hickling there is a similar road, a row of ex authority houses opposite a field with tight bends at either end the same as the situation on Ingham road, the only difference is that High Hill is a wider road. This road has a 30MPH sign up. If you could explain the difference to either of us it would be much appreciated. I do understand that a reduction in legal MPH won't stop the offenders but if it saves one life be it adult or child or one of the many walked dogs surely it would be worth it. Please give this your full consideration - Mrs Marion Millership

 

Photos of surrounding villages that have 30 mph speed limits:

Happisburgh: 
https://norfolkcc.cmis.uk.com/norfolkcc/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=A9C_Xuip9qc%3d&portalid=0

Hickling: https://norfolkcc.cmis.uk.com/norfolkcc/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=7h6FDapWzFo%3d&portalid=0

Ingham: https://norfolkcc.cmis.uk.com/norfolkcc/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2sK35hl3TmU%3d&portalid=0

Lessingham: https://norfolkcc.cmis.uk.com/norfolkcc/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=kBD8dJdtJoc%3d&portalid=0

 

 

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Wednesday, 27 March 2019
Thursday, 28 March 2019
Sarah Vergette
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This petition has been reviewed and the following response has been offered:

When setting speed limits, we refer to key visual clues and measurements in setting the appropriate level of restriction. These are the road type/characteristics and geometry, the level of frontage development, pedestrian volumes and pedestrian generators.  The characteristics of the road are a big factor.  Our Speed Management Policy gives typical features that should be expected for a 30mph speed limit;

 

  • Clearly defined village core of around half a mile in length
  • Facilities generating pedestrian activity – school, shops, PH, play areas etc
  • Significant development in depth
  • Numerous junctions
  • Significant pedestrian activity through the day

 

When the criteria are applied correctly it invariably leads to a level of speed restriction which is understood and respected by many drivers and hence receives a good level of driver compliance and I trust you will appreciate that as a Highway Authority we wish to provide sound and effective measures on the County network.

 

In terms of the difference between High Hill in Hickling and Mill Road / Church Road / /Goose Lane in Sutton:- the Hickling example is within the defined village core, it is on a C class route and is the main route through the village. 
  

The Sutton example is an isolated pocket of development outside the developed core and surrounded by minor rural routes. The wider carriageway in Hickling will be more likely to attract increased speed whereas the roads mentioned for Sutton being narrower, high speeds will be uncomfortable for drivers and clearly inappropriate. Any use of excess speeds will be intentional and reckless. Such behaviour is unlikely to be altered with the presence of signs.

 

Unfortunately, whilst I sympathise with your concerns, the provision of a reduced speed limit at this location is unlikely. The guidance and our experience show that simply extending speed limits further along undeveloped rural roads is unlikely to achieve such driver compliance.

 

I would also add that with a shrinking budget we need to direct our resources to those sites where we are able to demonstrate tangible benefits. In terms of this location the required traffic regulation order costs which would need to accompany the speed limit changes are sizeable and could not be seen as cost effective.

 

We do however recognise that such comparisons and measurement against policy criteria is complex, in order to ensure a clear understanding of how the decision was reached, Highways offers to meet during working hours with Sutton PC (with the Local Member present) to talk through the process and policy criteria in detail; it may be possible to identify other speed awareness measures that could be applied to this stretch of road.

 

I trust the above information helps to further expand on our reasons for turning down this request, although I do appreciate that it is still not the outcome you are seeking.
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10/04/2019 15:15 Mark Welsh Response ApprovedResponse Published
09/04/2019 13:38 Sue Mace  Response Awaiting Approval
29/03/2019 15:44(System Event)Petition Closed (responder emailed requesting response)Response Pending
29/03/2019 15:44(System Event)Petition Closed (responder emailed requesting response)Response Pending
29/03/2019 11:52 Mark Welsh  Response Pending
29/03/2019 11:12 Mark Welsh Approver Allocated: Mark Welsh Response Pending
29/03/2019 11:11 Mark Welsh Approver Allocated: Mark Welsh Response Pending
29/03/2019 11:11 Mark Welsh Responder Allocated: Sue Mace Awaiting Approver Allocation
29/03/2019 11:10 Mark Welsh Petition ApprovedAwaiting Responder Allocation
27/03/2019 11:15 Mark Welsh  Pending Approval

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